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A primary school has been accused of spoiling Christmas for pupils after a lesson telling them that Santa Claus does not exist.

Children as young as nine were told that only 'small children believe in Father Christmas'.

And yesterday their parents criticised teachers for taking the 'magic' out of the festive period.

from here

why do the teachers have to be such spoilsports?

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Santa Hat-Wearing Bus Driver Allowed to Keep Job

A Santa hat-wearing school bus driver on Long Island, N.Y., has won the right to keep wearing his festive headgear, Newsday reported.

Kenneth Mott, who keeps a long, white beard, almost lost his job after a parent called the bus management to complain. Mott, who has worn the red and white hat every Christmas since he started with the Bauman & Sons bus company five years ago, was ordered to stop wearing the hat because a child didn't believe in Santa Claus and was bothered by the hat.

"I said, 'What, are you kidding me?'" Mott recalled. "I thought it was a big joke," Newsday reported.

However, after Mott told other parents he might be fired for wearing the hat, supervisors changed their stance and said he could continue to wear the hat.


here
nobody's ever complained about the bus driving spouse in the house wearing a bah humbug hat

Date: 2006-12-20 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pusspower.livejournal.com
People need to get a grip. Can we just have fun, and respect each other's differences?

Date: 2006-12-20 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
Can we just have fun, and respect each other's differences?

I would hope but apparently more people prefer dissension to just accepting differences.

Date: 2006-12-20 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aflon.livejournal.com
The school story was on the radio here earlier this afternoon. Then there was an interview with Santa who said that these teachers were just sadly deluded. They thought there was no Santa because they were always so badly behaved, they never ever got any stockings from him.

One of our patients came in dressed as Santa today - he was on his way to a party straight after his appointment. Last week he brought us homemade bread and scones - very useful patient to have.

Date: 2006-12-20 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fomocobaby.livejournal.com
I was on a parenting board once and one of the members told a story of how she got reamed out by another mom because her son told this other woman's son that there was no Santa Claus while on a play date. Santa Mom screamed at non-Santa mom that she had ruined the holiday for the whole family, etc etc.

Which seemed totally out of line to me. It seemed to me that the obvious solution is to calmly tell your child that the other kid was mistaken and just carry on.

Date: 2006-12-20 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
calmly tell your child that the other kid was mistaken

I like that answer. I've seen parents get all bent out of shape because Johnny told Sonny there was no such thing as Santa, and Sonny was distraught.

Date: 2006-12-20 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chantal2000.livejournal.com
Hehehe, the "interview with Santa" is a great response to such spoilsports!

Date: 2006-12-20 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
Sounds like a very generous guy and would be perfect as the jolly ole man!

Date: 2006-12-20 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fomocobaby.livejournal.com
That's a shame.
Re the first one, I don't understand why the school has to include Christmas stuff in the schoolwork at all. Decorations OK, but surely you can leave it out of the lessons. Family holiday traditions are just that -- family. School is for schoolwork.

Re the second, IMO anyone who has time to call a school and complain about the (perfectly appropriate) headgear of a bus driver has too much time on their hands. Get a life!

My kindergarten bus driver used to have a sticker for Bud Man (the old Budweiser beer mascot) on the ceiling of the bus, near his seat. The olden days, eh?

Date: 2006-12-20 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urgayleswoman.livejournal.com
People have too much time on their hands. They should manage their own lives instead of trying to run everybody else's.

And about the school telling the kids there is no Santa- *grrrrrrr* leave it up to the parents. This is definitely parent territory.

Date: 2006-12-20 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
I think some people like to micromanage because well they don't get to manage anything else ever!

Date: 2006-12-20 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carolina200.livejournal.com
Some people just seem to tak epleasure in spoiling everyone elses fun don't they...

Date: 2006-12-20 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
Oh yeah they do!

What's the old old song about accentuating the positive, and eliminating the negative? (I can hear my mother singing it.)

Date: 2006-12-20 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carolina200.livejournal.com
This one?...cue music and all together now...

Always Look on the Bright Side of Life (from Monty Python)

From: A Faire To Remember
words and music by Eric Idle

Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...

If life seems jolly rotten
There's something you've forgotten
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps
Don't be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing.

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...

For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin - give the audience a grin
Enjoy it - it's your last chance anyhow.

So always look on the bright side of death
Just before you draw your terminal breath

Life's a piece of shit
When you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true.
You'll see it's all a show
Keep 'em laughing as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

And always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the right side of life...
(Come on guys, cheer up!)
Always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the bright side of life...
(Worse things happen at sea, you know.)
Always look on the bright side of life...
(I mean - what have you got to lose?)
(You know, you come from nothing - you're going back to nothing.
What have you lost? Nothing!)
Always look on the right side of life...

Date: 2006-12-20 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
Is that from Spamalot? Or am I forgetting it and it's on one of the Flying Circus DVDs I have?

Date: 2006-12-21 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chantal2000.livejournal.com
Think that one is from Life of Brian.

Date: 2006-12-20 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chantal2000.livejournal.com
This one?

You've got to accentuate the positive,
Eliminate the negative,
Latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mr. Inbetween.

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum,
Bring gloom down to the minimum,
Have faith, or pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene.

To illustrate
His last remark:
Jonah in the whale,
Noah in the arc,
What did they do
Just when everything looked so dark?

Man, they said we'd better
Accentuate the positive,
Eliminate the negative,
Latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mr. Inbetween.
No, do not mess with Mr. Inbetween,
Do you hear me, hmm?

Oh, listen to me, chillen, and-a you will hear,
About the 'liminating of the negative,
And the accent on the positive!
Gather 'round me, chillen, if you're willin'
And sit tight, while I start reviewin'
The attitude of viewin' right.

You've got to accentuate the positive,
Eliminate the negative,
Latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mr. Inbetween.

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum,
Bring gloom down down to the minimum,
Then, otherwise, otherwise, pandemonium's
Liable to walk upon the scene.

To illustrate
Well, illustrate!
My last remark:
You've got the floor;
Jonah, Jonah in the whale,
Noah in the arc,
What did they say
What did they say
Say when everything looked so dark?

Man, they said we'd better
Accentuate the positive,
Eliminate the negative,
Latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mr. Inbetween.
No, don't mess with Mr. Inbetween

Can't believe I remember that song. Had to look on the net for the lyrics though!

Date: 2006-12-20 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
yeah that one.

What is that from and did you note when it was written? I can hear my mom singing some of it.

Date: 2006-12-21 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
Hey thanks... and thanks for the above!

Date: 2006-12-20 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyepeep.livejournal.com
Some years ago a priest in a Catholic school told the students that it was a sin to believe in Santa. Uproar! Never did find out what happened to the priest.

Date: 2006-12-20 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
That's terrible!

Date: 2006-12-21 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caranglamiel.livejournal.com
Ugh, these people need to get a grip. May I complain to the establishment next time I see someone wearing clothing offensive to me? That would take up my whole day, lol. I'd be mad about the school taking the course of debunking Santa, too. It's like "and may I teach your children the way of Bajoran mystics?"

Date: 2006-12-21 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
People just need to learn to keep their mouths shut at inconvenient moments. LOL - me included!

Date: 2006-12-22 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsmepeace.livejournal.com
ya, stupid teachers... just like at my sons school.. where they had a xmas party and decided all by their little peabrain selves that one slice of xmas cake won't hurt him.
my son has had nonstop diarrhea
happy christmas for him

i wonder if you can pursue a lawsuit against a school, but what would my grounds be,

Date: 2006-12-22 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwowie.livejournal.com
I can't believe they did that!

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